You’ll need to know which handlebars
you’re using such as
UK/European, Western or Hi Rider. Custom bars may require a
custom-made initial cable. Let your supplier know exactly what you’re
trying to fit. Bars are measured by overall width, rise and
pull back. Use new plastic banjo filters and fiber float bowl plugs (not shown) as they
are prone to leaking.
A balance tube links the two
manifolds together. Automotive vacuum rubber hose works fine. Step “back into the past” and convert a
single carb Commando back to its original two carb setup. The reasons for converting back are... more mid-range acceleration and top end speed, the right "look" and the love of carb cleaning. This is just an overview as carb synchronization alone is worthy of several pages of text (see Vintage Bike magazine - Autumn 2016). Send your questions or comments to... bob@customclassiccycles.com 2 INITIAL CABLE - If the standard cable is used on the quick action version it will
not let the carb slides drop fully. Conversely if you use the QA cable on a
standard throttle you will not be able to adjust out all the slack. I prefer
the
quick action over the standard. 3 JUNCTION BOX - Unless you’re using
a dual cable Amal throttle, you’ll need a
one-into-two junction box. These
come new with the nylon “piston”
that the cables slot into. Do
not be tempted to grease or
oil the piston or the cables.
1 THROTTLE - You may or may not have your original Amal throttle and if you want to use stock, readily available throttle cables then this is the way to go. Minor variations aside, Commandos used two different
versions of the Amal throttle - standard and “quick action.” The latter introduced on the 850’s provides more
throttle with less twist and requires a different longer initial cable.
064600 - Standard
062032 - Quick Action 061451 - Western/Standard
064137 - Euro/Standard 064602 - Western/Quick 064601 - Euro/Quick 064638 - Hi Rider 019824 (air throttle or choke, if used)
033144 (takes 2)
065192 Twin Taps & Twin Amals
061440 Early Type 376093 Filter for banjo fittings
622151 Float plug fiber washer 062819 - 30mm Mk 1 Carb
065196 - 30mm to 32mm* 062711 - 32mm Mk 1 Carb *RH10 Heads 033281 - O ring carb flange
NM23358 Tuffnol 30mm
063458 Tuffnol 32mm R-0990 K&N Universal air filter for twin Amal Commandos
PART NUMBERS - Numbers shown are from Andover Norton and may vary from one supplier to another. "NM" prefix numbers are old and may be superseded.
065749 - Carb 850 Mk2A/Mk3 Left
065750 - Carb 850 Mk2A/Mk3 Right 062359 - Carb 750 30mm Left 062360 - Carb 750 30mm Right 062709 - Carb 750 32mm Left 063710 - Carb 750 32mm Right Note: Specify Premier Carbs for the best. Check with your supplier for the correct carb for your exact model and altitude. If you’re running without an air filter and/or open pipes then you may need a different main jet, needle jet and needle or even a different slide cutaway. Check and set the float bowl height even on new carbs - easy with “Stay Up” floats with bendable steel tabs, not so with original plastic ones which require brass seat adjustment. |
NOTE: Chokes are not
addressed because they
are so seldom needed and best removed.
Be sure to plug the hole with the correct plug
which screws in from the
top in place of the choke cable
adjuster.
4 SHORT CABLES - These go from junction box to carbs and are the same length.
Be careful routing them as they need to pull
the same. If one goes under and the other goes over
an obstruction(s) they won’t pull evenly coming
off idle. These cables take a beating where they
make a sharp turn down into the carb tops.
5 CARBURETORS - Most Commando’s use 32mm Amal
Mk 1 Concentrics but they are different inside depending
on the model. We all know the shortcomings of Amals and if
you’re reviving old ones give them a thorough examination before
you start ordering parts. Typically the slides and slide bores
will be worn even to the point of being out of round. The needle
jet and its accompanying needle will be worn meaning an
overly rich mixture. The old bowl floats will not like our
modern gasoline/ethanol fuel so new “Stay Up” floats
are in order. My recommendation is to start with a brand
new
pair of Amal Premier Carbs. Let your
supplier
know your model,
where you live and
any special
tuning
so
they arrive with
the
correct jetting.
6 FUEL LINES - You’re gonna want new ones for sure just don’t expect them
to stay clear and flexible too long. Modern fuel makes them yellow quickly and become
hard - not good for keeping the engine movement isolated from the tank and
petcocks. I rebuild mine using 5/16" spring clamps in place of the crimpings and
1/4" ID braided fuel line which I buy at length (Dime City Cycles). The original line fittings
and the short crimped section that joins the two lines together are all that I retain.
While you’re dealing with fueling it’s a good time to inspect the petcocks for
leaks. Again they don’t like the ethanol gas either and pack it in quickly if not
using ethanol resistant materials.
7 MANIFOLDS - These are not handed but it’s very
important to get the right ones for the head port size
on your Commando. Some are 32mm at the carbs
and 30mm where they join the head. Others are 32mm
at both ends (’73 850 for example). Don’t overlook
the tuffnol heat insulators, the “O” rings that
go between the manifolds and the carbs, and the
allen bolts with (my preference) split locking washers.
Normal split washers are too wide so source the
correct narrow width ones from your supplier.
When assembling manifolds to carbs do not overtighten the nuts as
it will distort the manifold flanges. Ditto when tightening the manifolds
to the head. Also be careful not to drop the allen bolts or lock washers
into the intake ports especially if using stainless. I plug the intakes
with wads of paper towel and then remove them only when that particular
carb goes back on.
8 AIR FILTER - If you’re willing to put up with the original “ham can” air
filter arrangement then more power to you. Do your fine carb synchronizing
before you install it and be sure the doors are shut to your workshop so your
neighbors don’t hear you cussing when you try and install the rubber carb gaiters.
Someone at Norton made the space about 3/8” too narrow. A better option is the K&N air filter for Commandos. Not original but
so much easier to remove and reinstall, remove and reinstall, remove and reinstall...
To remove the inner allen bolts which hold the manifolds to the head requires dexterity and shortened allen wrenches. The original carb bolts use a smaller wrench than the stainless steel replacements (the latter being smaller). I cut the wrenches down using a Dremel tool with a cutoff wheel. The steel is a bit hard for a hacksaw but can be cut that way with persistency. Trim on the long side and then grind down to these OD’s. File bevel edges in the flats on both cut ends so they’ll find the bolt holes easily. |